"J Haggerty" wrote in message
news:GwWdc.10755$wb4.9646@okepread02...

Just curious, how would vectors to the NDB final fit in with the
requirements to vector outside the approach gate if no approach gate
exists? (There is no FAF)


Interesting. It appears the definition of Approach Gate was altered at some
point. As I recall, it did not formerly refer specifically to the FAF, but
to the outer marker or the point used in lieu of the outer marker.