Vaughn wrote:

Actually, the 180 degree unpowered return from takeoff is a pretty
constant
and well-known killer of pilots. The statics say it is much better to
crash
straight ahead under control than to stall-spin-crash. Gliders are a
bit of a
different story. I am a glider CFI and we actually teach 180 degree
returns
from 400 feet.

My question would be why can't powered pilots be taught the same thing.
Granted they don't face the same situation on such a regular basis as
the glider pilot, but as the group is discussing, it would be a valuable
skill.

Steve