TRUTH wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in
:

mrtravel wrote:

TRUTH wrote:

How many times do you need to have it explained to you that there
was
no need for any of them to be instrument trained ? Flying in clear
skies does not require an instrument rating.

Graham

At 30,000 feet it does

But they went lower, didn't they?

Irrelevant. They didn't care about the FAA rules.

At 30000 feet, do you think it would be possible to figure out where
Manhattan is, on a clear day? If you spend some time looking at maps,
it
wouldn't be that difficult.

Anyone can fly a jet by visual references alone when the weather's
fine.

Graham

Didn't the engineer's article mention clouds over West Virginia?

A few 'light fluffy clouds' such as you might encounter on a nice day don't
amount to 'IFR'.

'IFR' is when you seriously can't see where you're going. Training is done
with 'blinds' to stop the trainee pilot seeing out the windscreen.

Graham