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Old March 1st 06, 04:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student
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Default lift, wings, and Bernuolli


Jose wrote:
I think you are refering to Newton's third law, often stated as: "For
every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."


Yes.

For an aircraft in level flight, the upwards acceleration due to lift
is counterbalanced by the downward acceleration due to gravity.
This satisfies Newton's third law.


Yes.

For a wing in level flight, the vertical component of momentum is
zero.


No.


Please show us your arithmetic. Suppose a 1500 lb airplane is
flying horizontally at 120 mph at 5000 feet above MSL. What
are the vertical and horizontal components of the momentum
of that aircraft?


That is, on a microscopic scale, no. The wing is constantly
freefalling, then being bounced back up by impact with air molecules.
Averaged over all the molecules, yes, the net is zero (the wing flies)
but on a microscopic scale, the wing is in constant brownian motion.
This implies momentum transfer, and following the momentum on a
microscopic scale is instructive.


OK, show us your arithmetic.

The wing imparts
as much upward momentum to the air as it does downward momentum.


This is where I disagree. Upward momentum gets imparted, but not
(directly) by the wing. Rather, it is imparted by the ground, mediated
through other air molecules.


The ground is stationary. How does the stationary ground impart
momentum to anything?

Of course this wouldn't happen if the wing
didn't pass through and throw the air down to begin with, but the ground
is what ultimately imparts the upwards momentum.

The pressure differential through the wing, from bottom to top,
integrated
over the wing area, provides an upward force for a wing in level
flight.


That's the shortcut. Where does this pressure differential come from -


Bernouli effect.

that is the question.

The downwash behind the aircraft, which is counterbalanced by a more
diffuse upwash around it, is real but not relevent to the issue of
lift.


I disagree here too. It's important in seeing the entire picture.


Well, yes it is part of the entire picture. Its just not relevent to
the
issue of lift, which is only part of the picture.

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