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Old March 4th 06, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FAA to be phasing out "position and hold" in the US

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:35:44 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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I never have either. The controllers at Syracuse would always tell me of
the inbound aircraft's position ("Bonanza XXX, position and hold, regional
jet 5 miles out") and tell the inbound aircraft about my aircraft entering
the runway for a P&H ("American Eagle XXX, cleared to land rwy 28, Bonanza
going into position now, will be departing before you arrive").

In these examples it is obvious that the controller is completely on top
of the work load, unlike a few of the recent incidents that led to this
decision by the FAA.


I never liked that procedure. If some action must be taken before the
arriving aircraft can land safely I don't issue a landing clearance. I tell
the arrival there's an airplane in position that will be departing shortly.
After I clear the departure for takeoff I clear the arrival to land. That
way if I haven't been able to clear the departure for takeoff for some
reason the arrival either goes around or lands without a clearance.


That's an intelligent approach to the issue. I just wish it more generally
followed.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)