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Old March 8th 06, 04:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FAA to be phasing out "position and hold" in the US



Peter R. wrote:

Newps wrote:


It is agreed upon by all parties that it is the largest facilities that
have the problems.



Then why is it that the FAA is implementing this restriction across all
towered airports?



This is actually the second time this has happened. A few months ago,
maybe six, we got a memo from the region asking us to justify why we
need position and hold. Presumably all facilities made their arguments.
They let us continue as normal. But the big facilities continue to
screw up so they are going to make it hard to use. The only problem is
the big facilities won't have to change much, if anything, to keep
qualified to use P&H. Therefore nothing will change.


Also, are there cases where airports can get a waiver
and continue P&Hs (such is apparently the case of the previous posters
airport)? I am curious why airports such as my class C wouldn't apply for
one, rather than choose to eliminate them per this requirement.


A facility will be required to keep all positions in the tower open to
be able to use P&H. For example we have a position called clearance
delivery. It is always combined with ground control. Bingo, no P&H
allowed. That's why virtually no class C's will be using P&H anymore,
they don't keep all their positions open.