I drove a Scion for loaner vehicle when I had some schedule maintenance
done. What a mess. I cannot remember the models but one looked like a
station wagon and the other like a sport's car. I hope I do not offend
anyone, but I would not buy one of them. And to place the instrument
panel in the middle instead of in front of the driver?????

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:


Japanese cars led the revolution in automobile quality; Honda and Toyota are
still the quality standard of the world.


given the design standard of the Element and Scion, I guess Honda and Toyota
must be putting their efforts into quality. :-/