It appears that there is a written basis to support an IPC containing a
representative number of items from the PTS rather than the complete list.

The inspector's handbook 8700.1 allows approval of a Level 1 FTD (clearly
not approved for circling approaches or for landing out of an instrumetn
approach) to be used for a COMPLETE IPC. This order remains valid today
with the current PTS:


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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com
"Bill Zaleski" wrote in message
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Robert:

I mentioned this same thing when the thread was new, however my
comments fell on deaf ears. There has even been an article on Avweb
stating how the "new requirements" will impact the process. The
process has been in place since 1999 when the task pable came into
existance. Yes, the IPC is actually being relaxed as of October, not
expanded, as the original poster stated. Just shows you how alert
some of the CFII's are. There has not been any descretion in the IPC
process for a long time. As it stands now, an IPC is an instrument
practical test in it's entirety except for X-C flight planning, WX
information, timed turns, and steep turns. The dreaded circling
approach is nothing new in the requirement. The IPC is an open book
test, but nobody is reading the book.


On 4 Jun 2004 21:42:28 -0700, (Robert M. Gary) wrote:

(Michael) wrote in message
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"Richard Kaplan" wrote
(1) By granting discretion to a CFII, an IPC can currently serve not
only
as a proficiency check but also as an opportunity for instruction or
for a
pilot to try a new skill relevant to his IFR operations.

True. On the other hand, it can also allow a CFII to sign off an ICC
that consists of a single full-panel vectors-to-final ILS approach.
I've seen it done. There is a very real reason why the discretion
CFII's have on an IPC has been reduced - too many CFII's were abusing
it, and signing off people who did not meet even the very minimal PTS
standards.


I"m not sure how far back you're going. My IFR PTS is pretty old but
still includes a table of things required for a PC. I think that a lot
of CFIIs just didn't know what an IPC was.

-Robert, CFI