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Old May 18th 06, 09:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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cjcampbell wrote:

As I said, most of these conspiracy buffs are a bunch of holocaust
deniers and other enemies of the United States. In a just world they
would be tried and hanged as the terrorists and traitors that they are.

I differ with you somewhat here. The scenario you describe is
dangerously similar not to a just but an intolerant world. We should do
everything we can to preserve freedom of everything, speech included,
so stifling a dissenting voice is no solution. The best way to beat
such people down is with objective, irrefutable evidence although I
agree it'd involve the precious time of many.


The only problem is that these folks are "true believers". There
is nothing you can give them as evidence that would dissuade them
from their "truth".


CJ is a true believer too, albeit in a different bizarre mythology than
that of the conspiracy theorists. But unlike the conspiracy theorists, CJ
literally wants to kill people for espousing nonsense that's in
competition with his own.

CJ rationalizes his bloodlust by asserting that his would-be victims
themselves harbor such homicidal desires (they're "terrorists"). But he
makes that claim without a shred of evidence, because true believers don't
need any.

--Gary


I appreciate your thoughts and your prose. I think you may appreciate this,
particularly the quotes of Shaw and Schopenhauer.

http://www.rense.com/general70/tjere.htm



In this issue there seems to be too many 'experts' refusing to answer valid
questions. These 'experts' attempt to use bluster and attacks on character
as a substitute for reason. IMHO many are afraid that at least some of the
answers may be uncomfortable to prior belief and force the reevaluation of
core values.



Socrates taught that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to
question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain
belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be
kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the
thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous



The very use of the term 'conspiracy theorists' to denigrate those who dare
to question the 'approved' 'conspiracy theory of 19 Arabs with box cutters
is an attempt to discredit by attack on character to avoid talking about
truth which in this as in all wars is the first casualty.



"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky