Bob Chilcoat wrote:
There is no way to load our 74 Archer into the utility category with any
fuel on board. Even with a 95 lb pilot only, and no fuel, the cg is right
at the aft edge of the utility envelope. OTOH, it's almost impossible to
get the cg too far aft in the normal category and still be below gross.

cherokee 180 model D (1969).
Me, aircraft & fuel to tabs: just right of the utility category. the only
way into the utility cat. is with 20 gal of fuel and no one in the aircraft.

me, aircraft, full fuel, big bruiser in the copilot seat -- need 50 lbs of
ballast in the baggage.

I've got a 7 gal. water carrier (one of the those bright blue plastic
square things) that has about 50 lbs (maybe a bit less?)

4 FAA people (175 @) and full fuel -- ramp weight is exactly POH limit,
but the CG is slightly outside the limits.

4 FAA people, fuel to tabs -- life is good everywhere. But I won't be
able to takeoff until October due to density altitude.

3 FAA people, full fuel, 50# in the baggage -- just inside CG range.