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"Morgans" wrote:

Jay, I just thought that I would point out, that you are doing the
'wrestling with the pig" bit. You get all dirty, and the pig likes it.

There is no point you could make, that would change his mind.

Jim, be fair.
We (USA) do strong-arm our friends, depending on which way the winds are
blowing. It's called "national interests".
I really enjoy "diplomat speak" and trying to figure what they really
mean when they say something.