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Old July 18th 06, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Crash Lander[_1_]
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Default Advice on PPL

My goal is to just get up there. I'm not looking to have my licence in
record time, or anything like that. I'm only 33 years old, so I have plenty
of time, considering a lot of people don't start learning until they're in
their 50's and even later.
With 2 kids, a wife, and only 1 wage, more regular lessons are not really an
option. Once a month I should be able to afford fairly easily, with the
occasional month being able to spring for 2 or perhaps 3 at a stretch. My
question was asked in the hope that if I can in fact get my PPL in the
Jabiru or Gazelle, then I MAY in fact be able to have 2 per month as my
minimum due to the cost savings. I guess the main answer I'm looking for is
this. In Australia, if I only use a Jabiru or Gazelle from start to PPL,
would I be qualified to legally fly a Cessna 4 seater without further
training or testing?
Cheers,
Crash Lander

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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Some schools offer discounts for pre-payment. Often those
schools are just like the new gym/health club that opened
down the street. In two months it will be closed and those
pre-paid memberships will be gone. But there are options,
schools like Spartan or Flight Safety [just to name two] are
solid companies that have been in business and you can use a
bank and write a check every lesson or once a week. If
you've got the cash, you fly often and pay as you go.

The point is that unless you fly twice a week, your progress
will be VERY slow since too much time between lessons means
you spend moist of your time re-learning the same thing over
and over and don't get to the new stuff.


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James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
. ..
| I'm glad that prepayment worked for you. When an school I
worked for went
| belly-up, students with money on account were left without
any recourse.
|
| Bob Gardner
|
| "steve" wrote in message
| . ..
| Great advice!
|
| I deposited the entire amount ($2,000 in 1978) with the
flight center and
| flew an average of 4 days/week. This made it possible to
solo at 8.5 hours
| and get my PPL at 42 hours. I am not bragging, just
stating that what Jim
| recommended really works.
|
| Steve
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
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| Flying only once per month is a waste of your money,
you
| just can't make effective progress at that rate.
You'll be
| spending money and each lesson will be mostly review of
what
| you forgot in the past 29 days.
|
| Save your money until you can afford to fly at least
twice a
| week, three times is better.
|
| As far as Australian rules, I'm in the USA and we now
have
| certificates issued for Student pilot, you just have to
be
| breathing. Light Sport Pilot requires 20 hours total
time
| and allows you to fly Light Sport Aircraft 92 seats,
simple,
| like a Piper Cub. Recreational Pilot has many
restrictions
| on where you can fly and never became popular in the
USA.
| The Private Pilot certificate requires 40 hours and is
| limited to non-commercial, paid flying. The experience
| gained at each level is transferable and applicable to
the
| next higher certificate. Using a less expensive
airplane,
| with lower cost and performance saves money.
|
| Here are links to the USA rules
|
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...61_main_02.tpl
|
| Google for Australian pilot license and see
| http://www.casa.gov.au/ for your laws and other useful
| links.
|
| Browsing they have these links
| http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/learntofly.htm
| http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/stages.htm
| http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/fcl_req.htm
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
|
| "Crash Lander" wrote in message
| ...
| | Hi guys and gals!
| | Just heard about this group from a regular here (I
think
| he's a regular
| | here!), and thought I'd take the opporyunity to ask a
| question that's been
| | bugging me.
| | I am going to start flying lessons within the next
few
| months, come hell or
| | high water, and have started investigating what is
| involved. Due to budget
| | constraints, the lessons will be fairly thinly
spaced,
| probably only 1
| | lesson a month, but maybe 2 or 3 in the first month.
| (Gotta love a decent
| | tax refund cheque!)
| | I live in Australia, so this question relates to
| regulations in Australia.
| | (Obviously! :-))
| | I have been told by a guy I know who flies for Cathay
| Pacific, that I can
| | learn to fly in an 'Ultra Light' and still nd up with
a
| PPL. By Ultra Light
| | he means something like a Jabiru, and not a hang
glider
| with a lawnmower
| | engine bolted on the back. He indicated that it would
be
| much cheaper, and
| | I'd only need about 5 hours in a Cessna to complete
the
| licence.
| | One flight school I rang, actually suggested I use
their
| Jabiru to learn in,
| | and I'd end up with a full PPL at the end, puely with
| lessons in the Jabiru!
| | Is this correct? Can it be done in this type of a/c
from
| start to finish?
| | (Talking only to PPL here, no IFR ratings or night
ratings
| or anything like
| | that.) If so, it seems like the way to go for me. The
| flight school said the
| | average cost would drop from around $12,000 to around
| $8,000 in total! The
| | flight school said the Jabiru, or Gazelle for flight
| instruction is $30
| | cheaper per hour than a C150, and $60 cheaper per
hour
| than a C172 or PA28!
| | If I can end up with a PPL from the Jabiru or
Gazelle, am
| I then still
| | licenced to fly the Cessnas, or am I only qualified
to fly
| the smaller
| | Jabirus or Gazelles?
| | Sorry for the dumb questions, but a guy needs to
start
| somewhere.
| | Thanks in advance,
| | Crash Lander
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