Jay,

We're discussing this statement:

"These decisions ARE made by civilian leaders at the highest level of
ELECTED GOVERNMENT. These leaders consult with ALL the necessary
specialists in the field, both civilian and military when making these
decisions, then the decisions are made at the highest level, which is
the elected civilian government."

Specifically, we're discussing the way the TSA determines that taking
photos at an airfield is a security risk. Dudley claimed the process
above would apply. Do you believe the President or someone at cabinet
level ("highest level of elected goverment") has consulted "ALL the
necessary specialists" and then the President or a cabinet level member
of the government ("the decisions are made at the highest level") had
anything to do with whether photography should be classified as a
security issue? (We still haven't determined that it is deemed so by
the TSA) To put it mildly, I have a hard time believing that. I would
hope the highest level of the elected government has more important
things to decide.

As an aside which also came up in the thread, look at the "security
measures" employed by the TSA and other authorities. Some are just
ineffective, others ridiculous, still others an insult to democracy. Do
you believe the real process of coming up with these is as perfect as
described in the statement above? I don't.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)