I agree with you- if I had been the controller I would have been sorely
tempted to tell the pilot to get an effing clue and go away until you had
some idea as to what was going on.The idiot tied up a lot of valuable radio
time with his "ah's, uh, I'm not so sure where I am, what do I do next, etc"

Perhaps this is why the OSH controllers are hand picked volunteers.

This reminds me of a time when I was flying at St. Augustine, before they
had a tower. They used multiple simultaneous intersecting runways, and
there was a lot of student training activity as well. Some guy was mumbling
on the CTAF about where he was "over the river" trying to land, blah, blah,
blah, Cessna blah, blah, blah, a 172 blah, blah, blah- you get the picture

.. I announced that I was entering the midfield downwind for another runway,
and he started going through 60 questions as to where I was, what color
airplane, the name of my firstborn, and other quesitons, tying up a lot of
airtime during a busy day.

I told him over the air maybe he should talk less and look out the window
instead.

One of my friends and aerobatic instructors who now works in a contract
tower but is retired from the FAA gave me some great advice, when I used to
read back every instruction: the less you say over the air, the less chance
of screwing something up. The only thing that you absolutely have to repeat
is a hold short instruction, the rest can be "roger", or "say again"

It seems to work pretty well so far.


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Viperdoc wrote:

Agree completely. Was listening to the live ATC broadcast, and someone in
a Canadian registered plane calls up and starts talking, also in the
wrong place and completely oblivious. The controller asked him if he had
the arrival notams and where exactly he was, but the guy said he did not
have the information, and was around 5 southwest.

The controller was a model of cool, and went through the normal
procedures to identify the guy and get him sequenced. It's amazing that
more crashes don't actually occur.


That's BS.. "Sir, turn around and fly at least 100 miles in the opposite
direction. Land. Get the notam. Study it and know it. Then takeoff and
fly the procedure."