http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0411/05648R12.PDF

(recently much discussed airport)

"CFLav8r" wrote in message
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Matt,
I'm still fairly new at the whole Instrument flying stuff.
But I have yet to come across a Procedure Turn on any GPS approach.
I was under the impression that most were designed so that you could
basically make a straight, left base or right base entry with no PT
allowed
or required.

But as my ex-wife might say " I may be wrong".

David (KORL)

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message...

A few weeks ago I flew a practice GPS RWY 24 approach into ELM. I don't
recall the exact heading coming in, but it was in the sector leading to
CIMAN. I'm new to GPS approaches having just returned after several
years of inactivity, and still haven't got all the nuances figured out. I
expected from what I've read about GPS approaches to be cleared to CIMAN
to commence the approach, then sequence to MAPOE, CERUP, etc. with no PT.
Instead, the controller cleared me to MAPOE. At that point I wasn't sure
exactly what was expected, but I was flying with an instructor and he
said I'd need to fly the PT in this case. I thought when you came in a
certain TAA that you'd fly to the fix for that area and then fly the
approach. However, in the case of this approach, this would preclude use
of the PT for all cases as CIMAN and BUTRE are both noPT and the TAA
leading directly to MAPOE is also marked noPT. So, that would seem to
make the PT unnecessary other than in the case I was given which is a
direct approach to MAPOE from other than the TAA indicated for MAPOE.

Is this a common occurrence when flying GPS approaches? Is this the only
scenario where the PT is applicable in this case?


Matt