23 July OSH accident audio
"Jim Burns" wrote in message ...
: Hey I know... let's not listen to it.
: Instead let's lambaste the poster.
: The reasons TO listen center around the male and female tower controllers
: who I think did a wonderful job handling the traffic that they were faced
: with. What you will hear is how the tower closed the runway, redirected
: landing 27 traffic to 36, then closed the airport, had pattern traffic hold
: in the pattern, additional traffic hold east of the airport, more traffic
: holding SW of the airport, more holding over the lake and or sent them back
: outbound for the RIPON arrival. Once 36 was re-opened they also had to deal
: with IFR arrivals from Chicago Center. The tower guys are to be commended
: for what they accomplished in very short order and with a high degree of
: calm and professional mannerisms.
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: What you will not hear are the FISKE controllers. That's the archive that
: needs to be obtained, posted, and critiqued. It's my understanding from
: people that were involved in the multi-hour hold that they were not informed
: of the accident, not given any reason for the runway closure, nor were they
: told when they could be expected to be released from the hold. Promises of
: "we'll get you down as fast as we can" and "we'll get you in, just keep
: holding" were common but no estimations of how long they'd be holding were
: given. A small amount of info would have saved much frustration.
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: Attention all aircraft inbound from RIPON or holding at FISKE, Green Lake,
: or Rush Lake.
: The Oshkosh airport is closed due to an accident.
: There are aircraft holding at several locations and altitudes east of the
: airport, once the airport is open we need to clear the airspace by getting
: those aircraft down first.
: We do not know when we will be able to release you from the hold.
: If you are unprepared or unable to hold for an undetermined length of time,
: we suggest leaving the hold for an alternate airport.
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: Easy announcement. Although every pilot must determine his own comfort
: level and has the ability to "bug out" when it comes to holding with minimal
: information about the reason or the length of the hold, the FISKE
: controllers could have provided information that would have decreased the
: frustration level and added a level of understanding.
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: Jim
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Now that I think about it, I do recall hearing the ripon controllers say, once anyway, that there was an accident and a
runway was closed. That was about the extent of it however...
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