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Old July 31st 06, 12:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Oshkosh arrivals

Shoot, as I was sitting near my computer last night,
it was nearly 10:00 PM, and I had not closed the live ATC link. I heard
someone trying to raise OSHKOSH tower, with no luck, of course. Someone
finally came (from the ground, on a handheld, I think) on and told them that
they were closed for the night. Is that clueless, or what?


I do believe the guy landed, too. We saw one guy swing overhead onto
Rwy 18, LOOOOOOONG after the field was closed for the day....

Others had come in (earlier), announced, and were not where they were
supposed to be, and not following procedures, and the controller asked if
they had checked in earlier, according to the notam. No, they answered. He
fit them in, anyway. I would have told them to climb to above pattern
altitude, and to go to Ripon, land and figure it out. Buttheads!


I agree -- and this would solve a LOT of problmes.

The day of the accident, guys that were ignoring instructions by coming
up the tracks from Ripon were being cleared to land -- while dozens of
guys (who were following the instructions) were holding endlessly
around Rush and Green lakes.

Those ignorant, inconsiderate pilots were completely ignoring the
controller's instructions to enter the hold and were really gumming up
the works -- but if the FISK controller had simply said "Blue and white
high wing, turn left NOW and enter the hold" (instead of clearing them
through to land), the problem would have been greatly alleviated.

As it was, the guys who were holding for two hours were very, VERY
aggravated to hear/watch as these "scoff-laws" were being cleared to
land. This lead to some aggressively stupid radio talk (I heard one
guy threaten to ram another plane if he didn't speed up!), and could
have lead to disaster.
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Jay Honeck
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