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Old November 5th 04, 03:33 AM
J Haggerty
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Tim is absolutely correct regarding the 120 degree turn.
As for non-radar entry, you could file for airways to ELKED for the
procedure, since that turn from the airway does not exceed 120 degrees,
or arrive at ROCKET on other than those 2 airway radials.
As for the wording, it probably should have been "Procedure NA for
arrivals at RQZ VORTAC via V-xxx Eastbound and V-XXX Southbound", rather
than the phrase used, which would have made more sense if there was more
than the 2 airways within that spread.

JPH

wrote:

It is presumed you'll be arriving via airways to begin an instrument approach
procedure in a non-radar environment. If ATC has you on radar and wants to
clear you direct to a feeder fix or IAF on an RNAV IAP, then that action
supercedes those types of notes.

The reason for the note is to enforce the 120 course change limitation after a
feeder fix or IAF. Those limitations have always been in TERPs, but the FAA
didn't chart such restrictions until within the past couple of years.

Stan Prevost wrote:


Hi, y'all -

The RNAV (GPS) RWY 18R into KHSV

http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0411/05488R18R.PDF

has a transition route from RQZ VORTAC to an IAF, HATAS. The transition
route is bearing 322 degrees, 2.1 miles. There is a note "Procedure NA for
arrivals at RQZ VORTAC on Airway Radials 261 CW 010". There is an airway at
RQZ on radial 261 and one on radial 010, nothing in between. The note
specifies a prohibited arrival sector, but also implies that the prohibition
applies only applies if arrival is on an airway. I don't understand the
reason for the word "airway" in the note. Anyone have a clue?

Also, how would one fly this approach in a nonradar situation, given an
arrival on one of the two airways? Would one give a position report and
request direct HATAS when a few miles from RQZ? One might have to be at a
higher altitude to make an uncharted off-route transition. I believe the
MVA in that area is 3000; can ATC apply MVAs in nonradar conditions?

Stan