Same here in the east Bay Area, CA. I sometimes fly a circuit with
most of HWD, OAK, LVK, TCY, and SCK. Of these, the only missed
instructions I ever get that are even close to the instructions on the
plate are after the VOR-A at TCY.

In fact, as a new instrument pilot, I have really had little
experience flying the charted missed approaches at all. Most that I
have are the result of _begging_ atc for pilot nav and the published
missed.

-- dave j

Mitty wrote in message ...
On 11/9/04 7:05 AM, john smith wrote the following:
What is a non-published missed?

I get non-published misses 100% of the time when flying practice approaches in
the Minneapolis area. Approach uses them to set me up for my next requested
approach. Just a heading and an altitude, usually. We are fortunate to have 6
or 7 airports (not including MSP) with instrument approaches, so we frequently
fly a "circuit" clockwise or counterclockwise around the metro area, using
airports only once. 5 or 6 approaches in about 1 1/2 hours is pretty easy to
do. I have never gotten a standard miss or a standard hold without asking for them.