It is a test, with a maneuver described.
http://www.faa.gov/education_researc...S-8081-12B.pdf





"Darrell S" wrote in message
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|I got my commercial due to being a military pilot so I only
had to take a
| written test on civilian regulations. Won't the examiner
allow you to use
| power on final to drag it to the point you wish to land
and then throttle to
| idle? After I retired from the Air Force some friends let
me be a member of
| their aero club for free in exchange for flight
instruction. This one guy
| had the same problem you're having. He couldn't
consistently land at the
| beginning of an actual short runway. I asked him why he
didn't take his
| base leg out a little further so he could drag it in with
some power and
| then chop it at the runway. His eyes got big and he said
he didn't think
| that was legal. I told him it was silly to purposely
enter an uncontrolled
| event to avoid the POSSIBILITY of an engine failure and
not having enough
| glide speed/path to get to the runway. Sure, if you have
a normal runway
| length you should set up so that with an engine failure in
the pattern you
| can still make it to the runway.
|
| You try not to deliberately enter a dangerous situation to
avoid the
| possibility of something else happening. But if the regs
for the CHECK RIDE
| don't allow it you have to do it that way for the check
ride only. But not
| in a real very short field situation.
|
| --
| Darrell R. Schmidt
| B-58 Hustler History: (see below)
| http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
|
| wrote in message
|
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| I'm taking my 2nd stab at my commercial checkride in a
couple days.
| Last week, I got through the Oral exam fine. We first
flew my
| instructor's Bonanza for the complex pattern work.
Didn't do too bad on
| the soft-field stuff, but I sailed right past my
short-field mark by
| about 300 feet. We then tried a short approach. Not even
the 180 deg
| accuracy landing. Just make the runway. Well, after
several laps of
| dropping the gear abeam the numbers, I did it again &
came up well
| short of the runway.
| Pink slip.
| I've gone up with my instructor to work on both accuracy
landings, but
| can't seem to hit them consistently. Any advice? Any
examiners care to
| tell how much "fudge" factor they may allow if I'm a
little short or
| long? If I am, can I request another try at it?
| I haven't even had the chance to demonstrate the airwork
in my Cherokee
| yet (which I think will go much better). I'm hoping the
DE will let me
| do that stuff first & save the complex for last. But,
since the complex
| is what I failed the first time, I don't know if we have
to complete
| that first.
| My CFI says I fly just fine, and I'm starting to feel
more comfortable
| in the Bo (only 7 hours so far). I've got 160+ in the
Cherokee & 450
| total. I'm just psyching myself out over 2 little
landings.
| Ugh.
|
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