snoop wrote:

Sorry Jack but your dead wrong. There are flesh and bone reasons why we
should teach people why we don't penetrate clouds, in US
gliders/airspace.

Let's deal with what I wrote:

"It can be done safely, under limited circumstances, and our effort
ought to be to show people how to do it safely and legally, not to
scare them away."

When you tell folks, "Don't do it," and just walk away, you've lost your
best chance to influence their behavior in the long run. As a matter of
fact, I suspect you and I would arrive at the same point after beating
around this bush for awhile. I won't get "called in by the FAA for IFR
[sic] glider flying here in the USA," because I won't be doing any.


With regard to wave flying, yes we get a window, and stay out of the
clouds and ahead of the weather. I've flown the wave window at Marfa,
where we had a window, a chunk of airspace, but still not a clearance
into IFR [sic] conditions. The topic here is getting a clearance and going
into solid IFR [sic].

The topic can be anything you want it to be, Snoop, but the thread is
titled "Cloud Flying".


Your statement " it can be done safely under limited circumstances"
won't hold up when your dancin' for the FAA.

"It can be done safely under limited circumstances" is a statement for a
NG discussion on the topic of "Cloud Flying". Legality is a different
question and one on which it is clear you are confidant you know the
answer. The FAA might even agree with you, but if they didn't they'd
never tell anyone -- you know how they are. So maybe you can point out
to us those FAR's that actually prohibit gliders from flying in clouds
in the USA under any circumstances. And then we can watch advocates from
the other side of the issue show us where their FAR's can beat up your
FAR's.

This ought to be fun....


Jack