Peter Duniho wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Nope, I wouldn't be caught dead at a strip club for women.

So you're a prude. Got it.

Still, what is actually *wrong* with strip clubs? Or are you against any
social viewing of performances that cater to our emotional or sensual sides?
Sex happens to be one of humanity's strongest drives, so it's only natural
that, along with other things that appeal to our mental pleasure receptors
(sporting events, theater, musical performances, and even air shows), people
might enjoy congregating and allowing someone else to stimulate the sexually
oriented mental pleasure receptors.

I will agree that, especially here in the US but also in a variety of other
places around the world, society frowns upon public displays of sexuality.
But certainly here in the US we have a pretty huge double-standard, both
with respect to how sex is used (see practically any product marketing, for
example) and with respect to how other forms of entertainment are accepted
while sexually-oriented ones are not (see violent movies, or professional
sports such as football or ice hockey, for example).

Being a particularly strong emotional drive, I will certainly agree that one
should be cautious about how one experiences sexual pleasure, whether
directly or vicariously. But that argues for moderation, not abstinence.
Perhaps it IS unhealthy to visit a strip club on a daily basis, whereas
watching several basketball games a week is perfectly safe. But that
doesn't mean strip clubs are inherently bad, or even in any other way
significantly different from the basketball game...it just means they aren't
something you'd want to make a central part of your lifestyle as a
spectator.

Not that I expect any of the above to resonate with your particular way of
thinking. You've already exhibited your own rigid and opinionated view on
the topic, and in my experience people who act like that aren't really ready
to consider alternative viewpoints. They will reject them out of hand,
without any serious consideration at all. But still...I offer it, just in
case, and perhaps as something that you might reflect on in ten or twenty
years, after you've matured a bit and are more open to considering that just
because you may have had bad experiences in an area, or just because society
tells you a certain area is a place for bad experiences, that doesn't mean
that area is actually bad or that you need to follow society's own rigid
rules for dealing with that area.

I just think there's a time and a place for sexuality, and that's not it.

It may not be the most refined way to express sexuality, but that's not the
question. What's actually *wrong* with it? Just because you're
uncomfortable with the idea isn't justification of the opinion that it's
wrong.

Personally, I think there's a time and place for beating the crap out of
someone, and I don't think that a professional sporting event is the place
to do it. But at the same time, I don't pass judgment on people who enjoy a
good hockey game or boxing match. The atheletes aren't being forced to
engage in events, and they offer something to the spectators that, while I
don't understand, I don't object to, nor do I believe necessarily reflects
poorly on those spectators in and of itself.

Is it true that the particularly "piggish" men may be more likely to be
found at strip clubs? Perhaps. But that doesn't mean that it's true that
going to a strip club is "piggish", any more than it's true that going to a
football game means you're a loud, obnoxious, drunk (even as many loud,
obnoxious drunks seem to be attracted to sporting events).

As a fairly rabid libertarian, I don't care if you do it, but don't
pretend it's anything other than what it really is.

A "fairly rabid libertarian" would not go around judging other people's
actions, especially when they don't affect you, the way you are here.

Saying you're a libertarian, and that you're not a feminist, does not
actually make either of those claims true. Your other statements here
contradict those claims quite effectively.

Pete



Oh, please. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand the
difference - although it seems that you wasted a lot of time trying.

And who's judging? Sex doesn't belong in public, plain and simple.
Sorry if you can't understand that, but don't judge those of us who feel
differently.