Under PTS section VII Area of Operation: Emergency Operation Task D,
objective #3 states that the applicant: "Demonstrates a nonprecision
instrument approach withoutthe use of the primary flight instrument using
the objectives of the nonprecision approach TASK (AREA OF OPERATION VI, TASK
A)."

If you read Area of Operation VI, Task A, it states that the applicant
"Selects, tunes, identifies, and confirms the operationals tatus of
navigation equipment to be used for the approach procedure." Sure the
examiner could fail a nav/com. If the aircraft has two radios, the
applicant should be prepared to fly the approach and identify intersections
with a single radio, unless the approach specifically requires the aircraft
to be equipted with two NAV radios.

The reality is that this is a discussion you should have with the local
examiner. Presuming you are a CFII, you should have a relationship with the
examiner that allows you to confirm these situations. Different examiners
have different philiosphies on such manners, and as we established, it isn't
well clarified in the PTS.

Hope that Helps,

Brad Z.

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I went back and re-read the PTS.

I don't see anything that says the examiner must (or even can) turn
off the moving map.

It says that one approach must be foown without the primary electronic
flight instruments if they are installed. The GPS is a navigation
system, not a flight instrument. Therefore I don't see where an
examiner gets to turn it off any more than he gets to turn a VOR radio
of during a partial panel approach. It is not a part of partial panel
testing, as near as I can see.

Any agreement/disagreement with this from any examiners out there?



On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:33:04 -0800, "C J Campbell"
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Is there an examiner on board that can summarize the significant
changes in the new PTS?

For example, is the GPS required to be turned off during one of the
approaches?

No. However, the examiner may turn it off as part of a partial panel
approach. One approach must be flown with glass cockpit displays or
moving
map displays turned off, if possible, but that does not necessarily mean
that the GPS must be turned off.

If the aircraft is equipped with GPS, one approach must be a GPS
approach.
If the aircraft has an autopilot, at least one approach must be flown
with
the autopilot coupled. I know one examiner who expects candidates to use
the
GPS and autopilot on every approach unless the examiner has specifically
told them not to.