On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:26:00 -0600, Newps wrote
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Larry Dighera wrote:

I once witnessed a Cessna C-172 crash on takeoff at Santa Monica
Airport (KSMO) in the early '70s. The aircraft rotated, and rocketed
skyward at a very high angle, stalled, and nosed into the runway. The
pilot escaped with a broken finger. The cause was a result of the
trim being set wrong. Don't forget your check list.

Full nose up trim is immediately apparent on the application of power.

Mmmm, that sounds like the voice of experience.

Wouldn't the aircraft have to reach some speed on the takeoff roll
subsequent to the application of power before the control force would
be apparent on the yoke? Or are you referring to another indication?

The fact that he let it get away from him says it all.

That and the apparent lack of use of a checklist. I have no idea of
the pilot's qualifications nor experience.

It doesn't take a lot of forward stick after takeoff to put the nose
where it needs to be.

I would think it is possible with some effort. What would be your
estimate of the required effort in pounds of push on the yoke to
overcome full up trim in a C-172?