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Old August 28th 06, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Christopher C. Stacy" wrote in message
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Yes. The question at hand is how the pilot and controller understand
whether the instrument procedure is being flown under IFR or VFR.

My belief is that if you receive and accept a clearance like:

"Cherokee 123 SQUAWK 5432, fly heading 090; CLEARED TO the
Foobar airport ILS 23 APPROACH via Init MAINTAIN 2000
UNTIL established on the localizer."

that you are have accepted an IFR clearance. This phraseology is
exactly the same instruction that you would be given near the end
your flight on an IFR flight plan.


No it isn't. The clearance limit is issued at the beginning of the flight,
not at the end.