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Old September 6th 06, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:17:40 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Because I operate out of KSNA, that's an interesting bit of (old) news
to me. I can't put my hands on an old chart at the moment. Can you
tell me how the MCAS El Toro Class D airspace was structured if it
didn't reach the surface?


I could, but since I can put my hands on old charts I'll just scan the
portion of the Los Angeles sectional from 1987 and 1997 showing El Toro and
post them in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation.



Many thanks.

Because of the clutter and close proximity of the three airports, this
is not an easy chart to read. I presume the thick, blue, slashed,
concentric circles centered on El Toro depict the Class C airspace,
and the thinner blue dashed 'keyhole' shaped circle centered on El
Toro depicts its Control Zone much the same as Class D airspace is
currently depicted on current charts. The wedge shaped area south of
El Toro refereed to in the Special Notice, doesn't appear to be
depicted as Class D nor part of the CZ, as it isn't bounded by the
typical Class D boundary depiction. However, it is effectively Class
D, as it is necessary to contact ATC (the tower?) to operate within
it.

So when you said:

El Toro MCAS used to have Class D airspace adjacent to the Class C
airspace that didn't even reach the surface.

was it the Special Notice airspace to which you were referring?