Maybe the SSA should leave the postings alone, and just submit the
questionable ones to the FAA for enforcement action. That might be an even
more effective strategy to solve the problem.

Mike Schumann

"Yuliy Gerchikov"
and_.hope.it.travel wrote
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"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
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As far as changing the rules, the sunset rule has been on the books for
longer than almost anyone can remember.

Doug, I think you know very well which rules I refer to -- and those are
not FARs. OLC has been designed and introduced as an open forum for the
pilots worldwide to share and compare flight traces online. Their rules
specifically said that they did not intend to police submitted traces for
airspace violations, etc. *That* is what has changed since SSA took over.

If you insist on quoting the rules, their rules, in particular, say (in
the most current version dated 7/13/2006 available at
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/regeln/2006/regeln.php): "10. Validation.
Flights and scores will be accepted if no objections have been filed
against them within 4 weeks after the corresponding weekly deadline". Why
have some scored flights much older than that been quietly disappearing
lately? *That* is what has changed since SSA took over.

Another example, from your own presentation: "SSA has exclusive rights to
OLC in US -- SSA Membership is now required." Makes me go Hmmm.... *That*
is what has changed since SSA took over.

The SSA did not make this [FAR] rule, they just decided not to ignore it.

Exactly, they *just* decided. Just like that. They *just* decided to go
back and check some of the flights for some of the violations and pull
them.

If it is indeed true that "the [SSA] Board has directed [you] to look at
Sunset and Class-A", then, again, one has to wonder what rules will be
pulled out of the hat (or out of the FAR) tomorrow. I gave you some ideas
yesterday -- anybody on the Board listens?

The aspect of it that strikes me most is that SSA came uninvited and took
over this great public resource, this open forum for pilots, and started
telling everybody what can and what can't be posted there -- and by whom.
Here is an idea for you: why doesn't SSA take over the US part of
rec.aviation.soaring as well? You could make another presentation and tell
us that "SSA has exclusive rights to r.a.s. in US -- SSA Membership is now
required." While you are at it, why not put a big SSA banner with
commercial ads right on top of every posting. And then somebody on "the
Board" could decide that some things posted here are "damaging to the
image of our sport", and next thing we know is some appointed "SSA-r.a.s.
Admin" telling us "you must remove these postings from the r.a.s. because
they make us look bad as a group". This kind of things can be done to the
Internet, you know -- just look at China.

I'd like to send this new SSA-OLC dish back to the kitchen, and have my
OLC the old way, the way we grew to like it. SSA on the side, if you
insist, please, thank you. So that I can throw it away if I am being fed
too much of it to my taste.
--
Yuliy