Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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You cannot count on ATC identifying a fix on an IAP unless it is marked
"radar."



That's not correct. Both ASR and ARSR may be used for identifying initial
and intermediate approach fixes, only ASR may be used for identification of
the final approach fix. There's no requirement that the fixes be marked
"RADAR" on the IAP.


Sure, they MAY be used but still need to meet some criteria in order to
be ESTABLISHED as radar fixes. The TERPs specialist can't identify it as
a radar fix on a procedure without the consent of ATC and verification
by flight check.
If the fix is marked "radar", that means flight check aircraft have
verified the radar fix meets accuracy requirements and it's depicted
properly on the scope. (Radar facilities do not have to depict or
display all fixes on their scope.) It also means that the specialist has
annotated the fix specifically as a radar fix on the 8260-2 forms that
were submitted IAW FAR 97 requirements.
So, as Sam says, you can't count on ATC identifying a fix on the IAP
unless it's marked "radar". Reason? It may or may not be depicted on the
scope (clutter) and they may or may not have agreed to be responsible
for calling the fix passage.

JPH