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Old September 17th 06, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Are Weak Links really Necessary for Aero Tow?

baron58y wrote:
KM wrote:

I dont see how
I could pull 6Gs while on tow.


Fair enough -- I don't either, but I'm not going to argue about it.


Dude!We agree on something!But I do think you want to argue about it or
you wouldnt keep posting marginally coherent responses.

Unless I find some reliable info that states otherwise, Doug might be
right. Got some?


Well consider this.If you take a look at the report (Elswhere on this
thread) about Shchweitzer tow hooks, it states that there were 3
accidents in this 12 year period that were caused by loss of pitch
control.During this same time frame there were at least 4 accidents
where tow planes came apart during aerobatics after the release of the
sailplane.So you have to ask yourself, What causes more damage to
towplanes? I hope you are reading this Doug.
I was flying in So Cal back in the 90s, and right at release the tow
pilot applied (What appeared from my vantage point) full left rudder
and snap rolled the tow plane upside down.He then split S'ed out the
bottom (With a Pawnee).Now I know alot of people on this list are gonna
counter that this wont hurt a towplane if you are slow enough, but I
beg to differ.I used to fly for an aerobatics flight school, and the
types of cracks Doug is descibing showed up on planes that were NEVER
used for towing.I have no idea why Doug had to make a silly remark
about tailslides.You have to also consider that most of our tugs are
tired old ships to begin with.


Also, in reference to Dougs post, If a tow pilot was losing pitch
authority, why wouldnt he just pull the release?


Would, if he could -- if he didn't wait too long.


Jack this is an excellent point, and I would ad that if this happened
low to the ground, a weak link would not matter.

Yet another unfounded assumption on your part. I fly a 1-26.


Now Jack you silly goose!You cant sign yourself "Baron 58Y" and not
have people assume you fly a Baron.

Oh, excellent! A "mine is bigger than yours" retort. We rarely get those
on r.a.s. -- unlike most of the rest of USENET.
There are probably some folks here whose aviation careers could put both
mine and yours to shame, if we wanted to talk about experience -- so
let's not embarrass ourselves. If "my 737-800" means you own it,
congratulations are in order! But if Delta just pays you to fly it, I
ain't that impressed.


Jack, you would be even less impressed if you saw my paycheck
lately.But more to the point, I threw this in because you had to make
a "unfounded assumption" about my experience level.Now once again I
will be the first to acknowlege that 9/10s of this list has more time
in tow planes and sailplanes than I do.


Or better yet, lets just get back to the post that started this
thread.


First smart thing you said. What was that post all about? Oh yeah, here
it is:

Jack, was that a compliment? Iam touched!

So civil, not contentious at all -- what a guy that JS is.

So, what do you think KMU -- now that you have reviewed the original post?


???? Once again for you and Doug.Keep a week ling in your plane.And if
your tow pilot is pulling any shenanigans, kindly ask him or her to
knock it off.

Jack


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KMU