"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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mike regish writes:

You'll tear the wings off of a normal category plane before you can do
either of those.

Normal categories of planes don't usually make the types of moves that
I dislike, at least if the pilot is competent.

How would you know? You've stated you've never been in a 'normal category'
aircraft. Or have you re-defined 'normal category' in your own mind?