Richard Lamb wrote in message I meant to try the trim augmented loop...

I've died in the sim only once, maybe. We hit dirt in level flight and under
control, but with a 1500 fpm sink rate. It may have been survivable. I
figured out what the problem was but I took too long. If we were in a B-737
sim, I'd have instinctively de-powered the rudder hydraulics. We were in a
DC-9 sim.

And then there was that time I was backing up a Metroliner with reverse
thrust, and fell off the aircraft carrier. Fortunately, I can simulate
swimming.

D.