On 8 Oct 2006 10:05:03 -0700, "flybynightkarmarepair"
wrote:


Jerry springer wrote:
flybynightkarmarepair wrote:

But it's a
historical fact that the rules we live under now in the USA WERE
enacted in a Cold War, Red Scare context. That WAS the Window of
Oppurtunity Neil Bogardus flew the Little Gee Bee through.

I belive you mean George Bogardus

Right!

More he http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/story.HTM

Key graf: "Prior to the war, reaction against homebuilt aircraft had
caused them to be banned in every state except Oregon. Bogardus wanted
the CAA to implement a new certification category that would overrule
the state limitations."

Getting the Hired Gun house in order will hopefully avoid another
reaction, this time on the national level.

Although I can't afford to hire some one to build for me, I don't see
a so called "hired gun" any different than purchasing a used home
built. One of the main reasons for building is being able to do your
own maintenance. Whether you hire one built or purchase used you do
not have that option. Purchasing used or having some one build it for
you comes with a lot of drawbacks. You can't do your own maintenance
and quite a few FBOs don't want to work on them.

As I see it, the hired gun approach is expensive. The owner is going
to spend nearly as much if not more than they would for a certificated
plane and probably have more capabilities than they could buy.

The Comp10 was listed earlier. Building something like that is not
much different than building a Glasair or Lancair, but probably more
like the two and 4 seat glasair bush plane (forgot the name). I'd
*guess* it'd probably be easier than the G-III and probably the
Lancair 320-360, and IV series.

Bigger doesn't necessarily mean more difficult to build, particularly
when it's over a steel tube frame. I never have figured out why any
one would want to built a comp 10 except as a conversation piece.
:-)) The 6-place with a PT-6 and the rear seats thrown out could be
a lot of fun though.

Now the issue of the hired gun itself: Does any one have any
statistics on just how many have gone beyond the basic builder's
center help?
I doubt it's many.

I strongly believe the week or two basic builder's center help is
something every first time builder should take advantage of "If they
can afford it" because in those two weeks they'll learn all the basic
techniques to do a good job and put them to use.

Me? Something like that could have saved me many hours of trial and
error learning and yes, I'm building one of those aerobatic capable
hot rods. There is an unofficial POH and I've had one of them pulling
3 1/2 to 4 Gs at the listed Vne, not Va. I know that particular plane
had been tested far beyond what I was doing so I was not concerned.
Chip Beck used to enter the vertical 8 (one loop on top of the other)
way over that listed Vne and he was pulling far more Gs than I. :-))
OTOH he has a lot more skill too.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com