"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message
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I don't have all the facts, just my experiences of having flown in the
same general area quite a few times, and the radar track as seen on
Passur. I did just fire up Flight Simulator 2004 tho with an SR-20 to
see if that turn is even possible, and flying north at 100 kts, 30
degree bank to the left, maintaining level flight, I was not able to
avoid crossing over into Manhattan when starting from directly over the
east bank of the East River. Maybe it's doable at a slower speed, but
you'd have to probably drop flaps to safely slow the plane down more.
(not sure what the clean stall speed is of that plane).

It's a tight enough turn that pilots shouldn't be flying it (other than in a
simulator) without first calculating the appropriate speed and bank for the
required turn radius. Practicing the turn first over suitably spaced
landmarks (but without the tall buildings nearby) would also be a good idea,
I think.

--Gary