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Old January 9th 05, 05:55 PM
William W. Plummer
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Matt Whiting wrote:

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Matt Whiting wrote:


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Matt Whiting wrote:



Did you ever intentionally land with the crab angle intact? This is
what is advocated by a gentleman on the MSFS group who says he is a
retired "heavy" captain.



I saw it done once in a 707 and I thought the landing gear was going
to collapse.


He posted a bunch of references daying that landing with crab was SOP
for airlines and the military. I find it hard to believe and it
contradicts most everything I've read on the subject, but I don't fly
heavies so all I know is what I read.

Matt




He sounds like a phony to me.


He's no phony. He's the founder of this organization:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/ifpf_history.htm

I still disagree with him IN GENERAL (several exceptions have been
discussed) about landing airplanes, especially heavies, in a crab,
however he seems to have impressive credentials.


Here's an explanation by a highly qualified (F-4G, F-16, and B-52) USAF
pilot:

" In landing the B-52 with its very long wings, it is imperative to
have the wings level through touchdown, the landing "trucks" aligned
with the runway, and the aircraft fuselage crabbed in to the wind.

On final approach, the crew notes the wind speed and direction
and, using a handy "crosswind landing chart," computes the number of
degrees that the landing "trucks" must be offset to ensure they are
aligned down the runway on landing. Then the pilot or copilot reaches
down to a mechanism sitting between the pilots and "dials in" the
appropriate number of degrees of offset for the trucks. This procedure
is accomplished for EVERY landing.

As I recall, normal (non wartime) procedures routinely allowed
for 20 degrees of offset. More offset is possible but slightly
uncomfortable for the new pilot making such a landing as he will not be
looking straight ahead at touchdown but rather he will be looking toward
his left or right shoulder."