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Old October 17th 06, 10:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.misc
Ron Hardin
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Default Lidle, Langewiesche, and turns

Don Tuite wrote:
You get additional horsepower from going downhill, letting you maintain
your speed.


Telegraphic as ever, Ron.

So, because I'm using the same throttle position as I was using in
level flight, I'm descending while in a turn and banked at A degrees.
The airplane seat is pushing on my butt at an angle A degrees from
vertical. That can be resolved into a vertical vector and a horizontal
vector aimed at the center of the circular path I'm describing.
Meanwhile the back of the seat is exerting another force on my butt
tangential to the circular path I'm describing in the horizontal, er,
"plane." That force is a reaction to the thrust of the prop.

If I "maintain my speed," I get the same lift I would have got from
adding enough throttle so as not to lose altitude. That means the
magnitude of the vertical component of the lift vector is still equal
to mg and my rate of descent is constant.

You were agreeing with me? (Never happened before.) Maintaining
vertical equilbrium depends on maintaining the same speed as in
straight and level flight, doesn't it?


There's no force on you from the back of the seat, unless you're also getting
a force from the wind in your face, say it's a powered hang glider. The
additional thrust on the airplane from its spiraling downward into gravity
is also a thrust on you yourself, so you don't feel it.

If you keep the turn coordinated, you're pointing the nose slightly down the
vertical to streamline into the downward spiral.

The additional horsepower lets the wings run fast enough at their angle of
attack to maintain the lift they need to hold the turn, where the engine alone
does not suffice.

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