Jay B writes:

Bull****...

Typical commercial ops between PHX and SAN take about 40-50 minutes
cycle to cycle

I'm not sure how you manage that, but a commercial flight for me
involves a lot more than the time between take-off and landing. In
fact, no commercial flight takes less than about 4 hours overall,
which is why I prefer high-speed trains for trips of less than 1000 km
or so.

I've had it take longer (or shorter) due to ground movement capacity
issues at either the departure or arrival points but the actual flying
time has never taken "several hours."

If only commercial airline flights required just "actual flying time."

The closest I can remember is America West flights at KPHX for which
you could buy a ticket and board about 20 minutes before the flight.
Overall that still added a good hour or more to the total time
required, though.

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