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Old October 24th 06, 11:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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Default ATC out to get us?

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:47:13 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

You weren't. Unless you hear "cleared into the class bravo", you're not.


Hmm.

Yesterday, I was southbound towards CDW at 3500. I was VFR, but wanted
the LOC22 into CDW (for practice, not because it's an annoying airport to
spot at a distance {8^). The way I worded the request (more or less) was:

...requesting class B at 3500 and LOC22 circle to land

[CDW was landing 27 and it was windy enough that I wasn't going to argue
that one.]

The response was something like "both requests approved as requested" and
he then mentioned, though I forget the wording, that I'd only be at 3500
for a few more moments.

No "cleared". Yet I felt that there was sufficient clarity in the
approval of my request.

Should I drag out and send in a NASA form?

I was flying with someone else (because I was doing approaches under
foggles). We discussed whether that constituted a valid clearance. My
copilot was sure that it was fine, and I was pretty sure.

But I did mention that, just as we passed "that line" (pointing to the
class B boundary on the GPS), he was PIC.

Perhaps my friend should drag out and send in a NASA form laugh?

- Andrew