Richard writes:

you lift *off* per normal rotation speed but stay in ground effect to
build up airspeed and then swoop up several hundred feet or so at
1000fpm (Cessna, not a Twin Otter say).

I've read about this but I have a hard time keeping the aircraft in
ground effect once it lifts off. It really wants to climb once it is
in the air. I do routinely put the stick forward fairly quickly (I
don't trim for take-off--maybe I should practice with that), but even
then the aircraft still climbs.

'less you're a ground loving,
dirt kissing pussy. And I'm not saying you are...but some of your posts
make me wonder if perhaps you'd be best served by Microsofts "Bus"
Simulator.

Flying is not an exercise in machismo for me.

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