"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Homosexual people cry discrimination all the time. I can't understand
this. We have bars, and clubs where you go and have a drink with friends.
Gay people feel the need to have 'gay bars, and gay clubs'. What's wrong
with the bars and clubs that are already there, and what has a bar or club
got to do with your sexual preference?

Gay bars do not exclude straight customers, just as (for example) sports
bars do not exclude non-sports-fans. In contrast, however, a gay couple
holding hands or kissing (just doing what many straight couples around them
are doing) would, in many straight bars, be kicked out, or even subject to
violent attacks. Yet you summarize that state of affairs by saying that most
of the intolerance comes from the gay side. You aren't even making a token
effort to connect your conclusion to reality!

If you seriously believe what you claim to believe, then I propose the
following experiment. Visit a liberal US city, go to a gay bar with a female
friend, and hold hands with her. See if anyone even notices or comments.
Next, visit a "traditional values" town and go to a straight bar with a male
friend. Quietly hold hands with him, and report back to us about what
happens next.

If I'm in a bar having a beer, I'll still drink with you. I don't expect
your sexual preference to be a required part of the conversation!

A few minutes ago, after you recited a litany of Amos 'n' Andy-like
stereotypes about gay people, you expressed your desire to keep "separate".
But now you want to go out for drinks?

Sexual orientation almost always comes up in casual conversation. You
display your sexual orientation every time you mention your wife or
girlfriend, or hold hands with her in public. There's no reason for it to be
otherwise for gay people.