Newps wrote:



Jim Macklin wrote:

The FAA and ATC exist to serve the military.




That's funny. The military couldn't care less about the FAA.

Since you enjoy funny stories about the FAA ;-) here is one for you:

A few years ago when El Toro Marine Air Station closed, John Wayne
(Orange, County, CA KSNA) lost the eastern half of its Class C airspace.
The airspace was bifurcated like that because of a giant screw up
years ago. Some regional FAA grunt thought El Toro would be there
forever, so they did it that way. The entire area was needed for John
Wayne Airport; not so for El Toro.

So, in the rucus that ensued to get the Class C back the way it was
meant to be there were more than a couple of conference calls. The
airspace lady in the Western Pacific Region made the following
outrageous statement on a phone call with union reps, airline managers,
ATC managers, and ATA folks, "The FAA is subserviant to the military.
The FAA does not own any airspace. All airspace in the United States is
owned by the military."