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He's not my protege. He simply sounds like a older man with really
poor discussion skills. But injurious? No, don't think so.


My (and others') point has always been, that we haven't seem him
directly insult anyone. He's argued, yes, but never attacked anyone
as others have attacked him. Worse, the ones who attack him (and it's
always the same group) also attack anyone who dares question those kind
of gang tactics.

You are deeply mistaken.
You say there is a gang mentality here, but that simply is not the case. We
disagree amongst ourselves all the time, but no one ever gets ganged up on.
Anyone, pilot or no, can come here with a question - even a trivial, "stupid"
question, and will receive qualified, carefully prepared responses from career
level aviation professionals and experienced amateurs - I think that's pretty
good for starters. When the same person then turns around and says they don't
know what they're talking about, claims himself to be the only expert, takes on
the whole group, even when everyone says he is wrong, says they fly tin cans
and toys - I call that insulting.

I cannot give him the benefit of the doubt about someone with poor discussion
skills. I believe his presence here is a deliberate and vicarious
destabilization effort, and he is very close to a complete victory. This is not
so exceptional - there are plenty of usenet groups that have been hijacked
and wrecked by destructive individuals. I don't want to see that happen here,
and there are some others who share the concern, which is why we are fighting
to try to see it through.



The only problem I see with his postings is with those who feel the
need to constantly post negative responses. Since he obviously doesn't
let that affect him, then all they're doing is clogging up the
newsgroup for others. Shut up, let him and others post, and we'd be
in much better shape. It was actually going pretty well there for a
few weeks until the gang spoke up again.


Those who value this resource, and who are trying to defend it are probably
quite impefect in their methods, I admit. It certainly is leading to a lot of
bad blood that most here would probably prefer to avoid - but just "shut up"
and let him have the group? I don't think so - not yet. That will happen soon
enough, but we will call it "jumping ship" and we will refer to r.a.p. in the
past tense - a group that was destroyed through a hostile takeover.




In other words, I think Jim in NC is taking the really wrong road.
It's just going to make pilots look worse and worse.

To whom? To Mxmanic? He already has complete disdain for pilots. Perhaps
showing him that we're a craggier, more tenacious target than he had imagined
would not be so bad for our image . . .

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Regards, Kev