Sam Spade wrote:

Newps wrote:




You call up and say you are VFR at 8500 and request an ILS into
Ontario. Nothing so far suggests you even want to be IFR. Had you
said you were VFR on top of an overcast and would like a local IFR
clearance to get down then it would have been clear. The controller
would have responded with a clearance to Ontario as per the .65 4-2-1.

http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/ATC/Chp4/atc0402.html


I guess it boils down to whether "fly heading 260 for vectors to the
Chino Runway 26 ILS, descent to and maintain 6,000" contains the
component of a clearance limit."


ATC will routinely give those types of vectors and altitudes to fit you
into the flow. Any way you slice you have to hear "Cleared to the
Ontairo airport via radar vectors, descend and maintain 6000, squawk 1234."