I just couldn't resist pointing out that numerous pilots have used just a
little of the first two, resulting in a successfull outcome.

I'd like to see how a (fixed wing) pilot can use the runway behind him.
It must be in a whale of a headwind!

Jose
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"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
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