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Old December 21st 06, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Plane plunges into sewage tank, disappears

The Beech 95-55 and the Baron with a two blade prop behaves
differently with a rotating prop or a feathered prop, and
the stall/spin characteristics is different depending on
whether the prop is stopped along or perpendicular to the
wing. I know some people who have spun a twin accidentally
and recovered, but they had empty backseats and no baggage.

Beech did in fact do the full series of spin tests on the
Duchess but decided not to certify for intentional spins.
The US Army did extensive spin testing on the Baron as part
of the Army's acceptance of the Baron as the T-42
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...craft/t-42.htm

It is likely that the FAA/NTSB investigation will be just
more guesses. Just what was being done, what actions for
recovery were tried and initial entry altitudes may never be
known. It is too bad.



"Cecil Chapman" wrote in
message
t...
| The sad facts is that many airplanes will not recover
from a
| fully developed spin with the CG aft of the utility
category
| limit or with three people onboard or any baggage. If a
| student gets into a spin and there is any delay in
recovery
| or any "fight" over the controls, the outcome will be
| tragic.
|
| Some maneuvers should not be done with any passengers,
even
| an observer or CFI in the back seats.
|
|
| The meeting was a good thing as was the decision not to
fly
| that day. The boss's support was good too.
|
| The crash occurred in a Beechcraft Travelair (a
multi-engine airplane) and
| there is no published procedure on how to even recover
from a spin in one of
| these aircraft should a spin develop.
|
| None of us were going to fly the day after and you're
quite right that the
| chief pilot was right on about honoring our feelings and
those of our
| students in the matter. Shoki was a very good friend of
his and you could
| see as he was telling us how deeply affected by the loss
(and those of the
| students) he was.
|
| --
| --
| =-----
| Good Flights!
|
| Cecil E. Chapman
| CFI-A, CP-ASEL-IA
|
| Check out my personal flying adventures from my first
flight to the
| checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
| Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com
|
| "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of
petty things."
| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
|
| "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive
in the air with
| this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
| - Cecil Day Lewis -
|
|