BDS writes:

Would you care to sit in the back seat when someone tries this?

No. But until you do it, you're poorly placed to make any
pronouncements about it.

That's what simulators are all about. What good is practicing a
procedure if you die in the process?

Obviously nothing, including facts and real world evidence will suffice to
convince you.

Facts and real-world evidence are persuasive. Emotional outbursts,
repetition, and personal attacks are not.

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