"d&tm" wrote in message ...
: in my PPL training it was drummed in to me the importance of always doing
: the w & b calcs with the fuel you were taking and also the zero fuel case.
: I posted sometime ago that with the Warriors I flew it was impossible to go
: outside the w & b envelope by burning fuel. I have just finished my
: transition to the C172 and have extensively investigated different loading
: scenarios and found exactly the same thing, at least with this N model I am
: flying.
: Are there any single engine airplanes out there that really can go outside
: the envelope by burning fuel? ( I am only interested in the normal
: ategory - not utility). Perhaps the training is just to prepare you for
: heavy aircraft?
: Terry
: PPL downunder
:

Cherokee 6 comes to mind right away...