"Larry Dighera" wrote

There are alternative solutions:


http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ion=retr ieve
21453. (a) A driver facing a steady circular red signal alone
shall stop at a marked limit line, but if none, before entering
the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none,
then before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped
until an indication to proceed is shown, except as provided in
subdivision (b).
(b) Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn, a
driver, after stopping as required by subdivision (a), facing a
steady circular red signal, may turn right, or turn left from a
one-way street onto a one-way street. A driver making that turn
shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an
adjacent crosswalk and to any vehicle that has approached or is
approaching so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard to the
driver, and shall continue to yield the right-of-way to that
vehicle until the driver can proceed with reasonable safety.

All that says is that you are allowed to do a left on red, if on a one way,
onto a one way. That isn't what Jay is talking about. He is talking about
turning across oncoming traffic, or lack there of, where with a solid Green
Yellow Red light, he could turn left while on Green, but now he has a solid
Red turn and can not turn.

A blinking Red would allow a left turn if traffic allows. It just takes one
more light in the stack, and the correct traffic control computer.
--
Jim in NC