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Old January 4th 07, 08:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default GA is priceless

Thomas Borchert writes:

... you're conveniently forgetting the requirement for
basic instrument instruction in the PPL, which you have not gone through and
which is the very foundation of any "instrument flight" ...


I haven't forgotten it, I've just disregarded it, since if it had any
teeth, there wouldn't be so many non-IR pilots dying when they
encounter IMC.

It's not good enough by anybody's standards except your own.


My own standards are the only ones that count. However, there are
others who have similar standards, including some real-world pilots.

The authorities, not you, make the rules
regarding what constitutes "instrument flight" (your choice of words, not
mine, so you're going to be held by it).


You must be in Germany.

The authorities only make regulations and law, not reality. If you
are flying with only instruments, you are in instrument flight,
authorities or not.

How would you know? Have you used them?


I've looked into them, but I've never used them ... mainly because
they are overpriced and underfeatured (thanks to the certification).

And it doesn't matter anyway, since, as I said
above, YOU are not the one deciding what is "instrument flight".


Instrument flight is pretty self-evident. If you are using
instruments alone, it's instrument flight.

Because. It's the way certification of instrument rated pilots works. A
simple matter of definition.


But that's not the same thing. Instrument _flight_ and instrument
_rating_ are not the same thing. The former is defined by the reality
of how you fly; the latter is a conceptual invention.

Why are you making life so hard for yourself and your fellow humans?


I'm not.

BUT the point is this: You have in no way and nowhere nearly the
qualification to say you have "learned instrument flight".


Try me.

There are strict and clear definitions regarding what that statement means
and what it requires.


Those definitions are arbitrary and limited in scope. The reality of
instrument flight is otherwise, no matter what the "official"
definitions might say.

You don't fulfil those requirements by a long shot. Many here do.


Very few here do.

And you DO offend them by claiming you have the requirement without really
having it ...


Offense cannot be given, only taken.

... because they have put a lot of effort and money into getting it -
and they are just as proud of their knowledge as you are.


Pride goeth before a fall.

I am not proud of what I know, but I am not unwilling to state it,
either.

So why not show a little respect?


I show respect where it is due, and even then only in extreme
moderation. People untroubled by pride do not need respect to stroke
their egos.

You'd be met with respect in turn.


I don't need respect, and I don't care whether I get it or not.

And you'd be telling the truth about your qualifications instead
of just making them up.


I don't lie.

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