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Old January 7th 07, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Default Absolute lowest altitude you can fly (legally)

Michael Rhodes wrote in
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This is an apology to Allen Lieberma for a previous reply of mine. I
was out of line.

By your warning against mxs (or was it me?), I had felt singled out,
and inferred reasons external to this news group, (answering in that
direction). But that was not so.


Not a problem Michael. :-) I did not mean to single you out in any
manner shape or form. Just been advising names that I don't recognize as
regulars that they are dealing with a troll.

I had asked a question concerning leaning, in a thread which was
revolutionizing its method. I am not a pilot, and felt like a troll
doing it. So your words might be interpreted as directed at others so
as not to feed me an answer. That was not what you meant.


No, I haven't seen you be confrontational. Inquizative (sp?) and
question is good, but when a person becomes confronatational based on NO
experience, that becomes an issue with me.

As I have been stating all along, Mx questions are very good.

His responses are out of line, based on MSFS which in no manner shape or
form is a foundation for flight experience opinions. The human
physiology of flight simply is not simulated. I sure cannot imagine
getting the leans in front of my flat screen panel screen playing MSFS
under IMC. I cannot imagine the feeling of G force for steep turns. I
can't imagine the magic of flight on the days where the air is glassy
smooth on a Dell computer with a screen in front of me.

You at least, can relate (even if it's a little) to the above as you been
in a real plane.

It is his responses that makes him a troll when he confronts real time
experiences based on his MSFS experiences. The two don't intermingle
when you are talking human physiology.

complaint of mine is the feeding nature of discussion on the usenet.
Not enough of it. There are certain rules, however, by which that
should be done. My reply does not fit them. In that regard I think
we agree.


Absolutely agree.

The only way Mx will dissapear will be as a group, we do not respond to
his postings. This will be the only way these groups will go back to
normalcy.

Anybody that feels the need to respond to his postings should just email
him PRIVATELY. This way any new people won't be subjected to his
nonsense, and we don't have to waste time warning them they are dealing
with a troll.

Regulars already know he is a troll and for the most part do not respond
to him, so he is wanting new people to fall into his trolling ways.

Trolls need an audience, no audience (I.E. no replies), he will get bored
and move on.

Allen