Kev wrote:


Umm. Nobody *hand* flying should in theory forget about trim setting.


(We all know the problems that can be caused by autopilots or FBW
systems mucking with the trim behind a pilot's back ;-)

In the types of planes we're talking about here the autopilot doesn't
actuate the trim. The STEC's will even tell you that you need to trim
and in which direction.



Of course, sometimes pilots *do* forget... thus the number of take-off
accidents caused by the trim being in the wrong place. Yes, at the
last second they feel the extra control force coming in, but it's too
late.

Maybe in jets or King Air's but not spam cans.